Comments on: Timing is Everything http://durkniblick.wordpress.com/2007/09/08/timing-is-everything/ Reviews, Journalings, Pictures, Thoughts, Ramblings & Musings and sometimes, Not So Musings Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:31:57 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Monte http://durkniblick.wordpress.com/2007/09/08/timing-is-everything/#comment-7 Monte Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:41:27 +0000 http://durkniblick.wordpress.com/2007/09/08/timing-is-everything/#comment-7 Yeah - um - <i>truth</i>, they call it. Sounds like you're fighting hard, and admirably. It's not just Christian higher education that looks through rose-colored glasses, either. Sometimes I think of my first career - I was teaching string bass majors at Wichita State - and now I wonder, "What on earth were these people going to do for a living?" Professional music is like professional sports - only a tiny fraction of those who excel even at the university level make it as pro performers. And we (I) should have been telling them: "Look, you probably won't make it unless something really unusual happens; let's do some thinking about how you'd like to provide for yourself." Perhaps we get so sold on what we give ourselves to that it's easy to ignore its flaws. Thanks for telling your story - some won't hear it, but some will, too. Our Nazarene system probably works well for nurses - who'll be making $45,000 their first year - but fitting higher ed to preachers is going to take a pretty radical shift. Ironically, we're becoming increasingly in need of the third-world education-by-extension model. Strange, eh? <strong>Derin Says: </strong> Of course you can’t tell kids this. I could not have been told this after the recruiters gave me hope and a way to go to college. I would have seen them as an obstacle standing in the way of me fulfilling my calling! I would have dismissed them faster than a Tribble at a Wookie conference. The answer is a voice of reason from MNU. Those recruiters should have painted a proper picture. They should have been honest with me. They should have recruited someone other than me. -Derin- Yeah – um – truth, they call it.
Sounds like you’re fighting hard, and admirably.
It’s not just Christian higher education that looks through rose-colored glasses, either. Sometimes I think of my first career – I was teaching string bass majors at Wichita State – and now I wonder, “What on earth were these people going to do for a living?” Professional music is like professional sports – only a tiny fraction of those who excel even at the university level make it as pro performers. And we (I) should have been telling them: “Look, you probably won’t make it unless something really unusual happens; let’s do some thinking about how you’d like to provide for yourself.”
Perhaps we get so sold on what we give ourselves to that it’s easy to ignore its flaws.
Thanks for telling your story – some won’t hear it, but some will, too. Our Nazarene system probably works well for nurses – who’ll be making $45,000 their first year – but fitting higher ed to preachers is going to take a pretty radical shift. Ironically, we’re becoming increasingly in need of the third-world education-by-extension model. Strange, eh?

Derin Says: Of course you can’t tell kids this. I could not have been told this after the recruiters gave me hope and a way to go to college. I would have seen them as an obstacle standing in the way of me fulfilling my calling! I would have dismissed them faster than a Tribble at a Wookie conference. The answer is a voice of reason from MNU. Those recruiters should have painted a proper picture. They should have been honest with me. They should have recruited someone other than me.

-Derin-

]]> By: Joe http://durkniblick.wordpress.com/2007/09/08/timing-is-everything/#comment-5 Joe Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:13:28 +0000 http://durkniblick.wordpress.com/2007/09/08/timing-is-everything/#comment-5 You know, I keep telling kids this, and their parents get mad at me like I'm deceiving them. School-loans are BAD. If you can't afford college, don't go to college. There are lots of ways to make good money without college. Also, I keep hearing wanna-be ministers taking classes from NBC or some-such and going into mega-debt that they'll never be able to pay off. The Nazarene system is terribly broken. If I removed your name, could I print this and post it at my church? <strong>Derin Says:</strong> Use it and my name! -Derin- You know, I keep telling kids this, and their parents get mad at me like I’m deceiving them. School-loans are BAD.

If you can’t afford college, don’t go to college. There are lots of ways to make good money without college.

Also, I keep hearing wanna-be ministers taking classes from NBC or some-such and going into mega-debt that they’ll never be able to pay off. The Nazarene system is terribly broken.

If I removed your name, could I print this and post it at my church?

Derin Says: Use it and my name!
-Derin-

]]> By: Lisa http://durkniblick.wordpress.com/2007/09/08/timing-is-everything/#comment-2 Lisa Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:40:33 +0000 http://durkniblick.wordpress.com/2007/09/08/timing-is-everything/#comment-2 I feel you brother - completely!!! I feel you brother – completely!!!

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